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Why Do $xy$ and $yx$ Have the Same Order in a Group?

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At a glance

  1. 1. Find a conjugation

    Compute x⁻¹(xy)x and simplify it to yx.

  2. 2. Compare powers

    Conjugation carries every power of xy to the corresponding power of yx.

  3. 3. Compare orders

    The same positive exponents give the identity for both elements, so their orders match.

For any elements x,yx,y in a group GG, the products xyxy and yxyx have the same order. The key is that they are conjugate: one is obtained from the other by conjugating with a group element. This proof does not require GG to be finite or commutative.

The proof

Recall that the order o(g)o(g) of an element gg is the least positive integer nn for which gn=eg^n=e, if such an integer exists. If no positive power of gg equals the identity, gg has infinite order.

Conjugate xyxy by xx:

x−1(xy)x=(x−1x)yx=yx.x^{-1}(xy)x=(x^{-1}x)yx=yx.

So yxyx is a conjugate of xyxy. More explicitly, for every positive integer nn,

(yx)n=(x−1(xy)x)n=x−1(xy)nx.(yx)^n=\bigl(x^{-1}(xy)x\bigr)^n=x^{-1}(xy)^n x.

The middle factors cancel when the product is expanded. Consequently,

(yx)n=e⟺x−1(xy)nx=e⟺(xy)n=e.(yx)^n=e \quad\Longleftrightarrow\quad x^{-1}(xy)^n x=e \quad\Longleftrightarrow\quad (xy)^n=e.

The last equivalence follows by multiplying by xx on the left and x−1x^{-1} on the right. Thus xyxy and yxyx have exactly the same positive powers that equal the identity. If there is a least such exponent, it is the same for both elements; if there is none, both have infinite order. Therefore,

o(xy)=o(yx).o(xy)=o(yx).

A worked example in S3S_3

Take G=S3G=S_3, the group of permutations of {1,2,3}\{1,2,3\}, and let x=(12)x=(12) and y=(23)y=(23). Use the standard convention that permutations are composed right to left. Then

xy=(12)(23)=(123),yx=(23)(12)=(132).xy=(12)(23)=(123), \qquad yx=(23)(12)=(132).

These are different permutations, but each is a 3-cycle, so each has order 3. The conjugation calculation explains why their orders agree: x−1=xx^{-1}=x here, and x−1(xy)x=yxx^{-1}(xy)x=yx. The general result says more than this example: the products need not be equal, but their orders always agree.

Why conjugation preserves order

More generally, for any g,h∈Gg,h\in G, the elements gg and h−1ghh^{-1}gh have the same order. For every positive integer nn,

(h−1gh)n=h−1gnh.(h^{-1}gh)^n=h^{-1}g^n h.

Hence (h−1gh)n=e(h^{-1}gh)^n=e exactly when gn=eg^n=e. This is why conjugation preserves both finite order and infinite order. In the question, take g=xyg=xy and h=xh=x.

You can also verify the conjugacy in the other direction: y(xy)y−1=yxy(xy)y^{-1}=yx. Either identity identifies the same pair as conjugate elements.

Common mistakes

  • Assuming xy=yxxy=yx. That equality is true in an abelian group, but not generally. The claim concerns the orders, not the elements themselves.
  • Trying to reorder the factors. You do not need commutativity. The cancellation in x−1(xy)x=yxx^{-1}(xy)x=yx uses associativity and the inverse law only.
  • Using only finite-order reasoning. If the order is infinite, compare the identity powers instead: the equivalence (xy)n=e(xy)^n=e if and only if (yx)n=e(yx)^n=e holds for every positive integer nn.
  • Claiming the converse for arbitrary pairs. This argument shows that xyxy and yxyx are conjugate, so they have the same order. Having the same order alone does not generally imply that two elements are conjugate.

The same reasoning is useful whenever a problem replaces an element by a conjugate: properties determined by its powers, such as its order, are unchanged.

References

  1. Abstract Algebra, David S. Dummit and Richard M. Foote

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